National Party leader Christopher Luxon says the level of te reo used in government departments is a "problem".
He made the comments at a recent public meeting on his "Back On Track" tour.
He said some older people can't tell the difference between Te Whatu Ora, Waka Kotahi and Te Pukenga.
So our reporter Tom Taylor and cameraman Nick Monro hit the streets to see if it's all a bit confusing for people or not.
