Data from the police about their now abandoned Armed Response Teams trial shows they were used to deal with six incidents involving 12 years old - almost all of whom were Maori - some of the children had weapons, but none of them were carrying a gun, and some were caught stealing.
Karyn speaks with Tania Sawicki Mead who is the director of JustSpeak, a youth movement calling for the transformation of criminal justice in New Zealand.
Photo: RNZ / Vinay Ranchhod
