Stephen, Brigitte and Kathryn discuss the ongoing management of Covid as the trans Tasman bubble takes off.
Photo: RNZ / Simon Rogers
Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research , which is the polling firm used by Labour. He is former political adviser to two Labour governments.
Brigitte Morten is a senior consultant with public and commercial law firm Franks & Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government.
