When Tim Bateman played professional rugby, he was well aware of the toll anxiety could take on his performance.
It's something he's hoping to help children with, through his new "Fruit Salad" series of books he's penned with cartoonist Jeff Bell.
The first two are out now: The Lonely Lemon and The Sad Banana.
Tim played for the Crusaders, Hurricanes, Maori All Blacks and the Coca-Cola Red Sparks in Japan.
He retired last year to spend more time with his family and support his wife Laura through her battle with MS.
That experience has seen him move into the well-being space - he and Laura operate two wellness centres in Christchurch: Cloud9 Float Club and O-Studio.
Tim joins Kathryn to talk about how there's so many books to help adults with how their mental health, but not many for children.
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