9 Feb 2023

Episode 1: Mana Moana!

From Fair Game: Pacific Rugby Against the World, 5:00 am on 9 February 2023
An image of a number of rugby players in red and blue uniforms in a scrum - Western Samoa in blue is playing Wales in red. The picture shows a Western Samoan player emerging from the melee with the ball between his hands. Its is Matthew Vaea of Western Samoa dive passing away from a scrum during the World Cup match against Wales at Cardiff Arms Park in Cardiff, Wales on October 6 1991.

Matthew Vaea of Western Samoa dive passes away from a scrum during the World Cup match against Wales at Cardiff Arms Park in Cardiff, Wales on October 6 1991. Photo: Getty Images

James Nokise remembers the glory days of the Samoan team from the 1990s as a kid wrapped in a rug watching his heroes on the TV. 

Almost three decades after rugby turned professional, he sits down with the former All Black great, Sir Tuifa’asisina Bryan Williams.

As coach of Manu Samoa through the ‘90s and current patron of Moana Pasifika, the first professional team run by Pasifika for Pasifika, Sir Bryan understands the challenges Pacific players face.

‘’The powers that be decided there was no place for Pasifika in Super Rugby, which at the time for me and a number of others was absolutely galling – a great sense of disappointment, a great sense of grievance…’’

A close up black and white shot of former All Black, Bryan Williams

Former All Black, Bryan Williams. Photo: PHOTOSPORT

One of the first Pasifika All Blacks, Sir Bryan went on to be President of New Zealand Rugby and he has a deep experience of how the system works:

‘’It's not a fair game now.  Because it's obvious that certainly the island nations haven't got enough money.’’
We also talk politics of rugby with World Rugby Chairman Sir Bill Beaumont and NZRPA chief Rob Nichol.

And Ikale Tahi centre, Fine Inisi and Professor Lisa Uperesa discuss the way the powerful protect their own interests in the sporting world and how that impacts players and the game.

A photo of Lotu Inisi and Fine Inisi clasping hands and wearing traditional Tongan taʻovala.
Moana Pasifika rugby squad commercial day at Mt. Smart Stadium, Auckland, New Zealand on Wednesday 12th January 2022. Super Rugby Pacific rugby competiton.
Mandatory credit: © Andrew Cornaga / www.photosport.nz

Lotu Inisi and Fine Inisi. Moana Pasifika rugby squad commercial day at Mt. Smart Stadium, Auckland, New Zealand on Wednesday 12th January 2022. Super Rugby Pacific rugby competiton. Mandatory credit: © Andrew Cornaga / www.photosport.nz Photo: Andrew Cornaga / www.photosport.nz

Available from February 9th on Apple podcasts, iHeart, Spotify, PMN and at RNZ.co.nz.

Fair Game: Pacific Rugby Against the World is made with the support of New Zealand on Air.

Written and produced by James Nokise, Talei Anderson and John Daniell for Bird of Paradise Productions, Radio New Zealand and Pacific Media Network

Language programme director - Matt Tufuga

Executive producers for RNZ - Justin Gregory, Katy Gosset and Tim Watkin

Sound engineers - Rangi Powick, Alex Harmer and Jeremy Ansell for RNZ, Harrison Edwards at PMN

Music and sound design - Anonymouz (Faiumu Matthew Salapu)

Visuals: Manatoa Productions, Anonymouz and Krista Barnaby (RNZ)

Additional reporting by Lice Movono

Additional sound recorded by Rudy Bartley at WT Media in Samoa

Special thanks to Don Mann, Lui Vilisoni, Lagipoiva Cherelle Jackson, Jodhi Hoani, Josie Campbell,

Elijah Fa’afiu and Inangaro Vakaafi

RNZ Commissioning - Jodhi Hoani, Tim Burnell

RNZ Acting Head of Content - Veronica Schmidt

RNZ Interim Chief Content Officer - Megan Whelan

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